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Friday, 08.Nov.2002

9:07 - m33s00g33k1

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well, THAT didn't work.

After having spent half an hour reconfiguring my kernal and then an unknown ammount of time recompiling it (I wasn't about to sit around and wait, I just started it and left), I move it into position (along with all the various modules and mapfiles), reboot, and . . .

NOTHING!

#*%^*%#%#*

now I get to re-install. Oh well, I wanted to reconfigure the partitioning of the disk anyway. stoopid SuSE made it all one big partition, which we all know you shouldn't ever do. This time I'm playing with the LVM so I might be able to resize partitions and filesystems on-the-fly after this.

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From:ex_nina910
Date:9:09 08.Nov.2002 (UTC)
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meesoogeeki, damnut.

how about m3s0g33k1?
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From:lograh
Date:9:10 08.Nov.2002 (UTC)
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ooh, I like that! I'll change it.. :)
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From:gregory_geiger
Date:9:17 08.Nov.2002 (UTC)

j3z

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J00 4rE 5O 93eky!!
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From:lograh
Date:9:26 08.Nov.2002 (UTC)

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nah.. truly g33k1 would be mentioning that it's just one of four systems plugged into this KVM switch, and I'm working on the other three as well as a terminal session connected to another server in a different building..

This must be the SysAdmin part of the job.. heh. :)
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From:khanfused
Date:12:10 08.Nov.2002 (UTC)

recompiles?

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You recompiling for specific modules (nic cards, SCSI support, etc.) ... or just to speed the system up and get rid of non-essential things?

I'm wondering how good SuSE really is with auto-detection/base install/etc (for building a machine for a newbie to learn on -- even more of a newbie than me)
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From:lograh
Date:12:16 08.Nov.2002 (UTC)

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yeah, I was trying to weed out the crap that I didn't need (like scsi drivers when there's not a single scsi device in the system). I wasn't adding anything to it, since it pretty much had the kitchen sink tossed in to begin with (all modularized, thankfully, but I didn't even want that).

it actually did a great job of installing easilly and getting you up and running with little or no pain. Granted, it wasn't the most optimal of installations, but it would work fine for a newbie. Also, it wasn't any less optimal than Windoze is.
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From:khanfused
Date:12:25 08.Nov.2002 (UTC)

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Redhat's not the most optimal of installations -- a friend tried v8 on a duplicate of the box I'm working on, and it's SLOWER than a standard windows install. I'd tried Mandrake too - and that was ok, till I ended up in RPM hell one evening.

My home machine's a Debian box - which I'm slowly climbing the learning curve of. VERRY slowly. I could ALWAYS do that-but this machine's being made for my mom, and since she brought me into this universe, she has full social right (if not legal right) to take me out of it. So no Debian-learning-curve-from-hell for her.
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From:lograh
Date:12:46 08.Nov.2002 (UTC)

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hrmm, well from the learning curve standpoint, for the non-admin user to just use it and get their stuff done, SuSE 8.1 is damn straight-forward. The menus are a little odd and take some getting used to, but that can all be configured.

I'm forseeing some SuSE version very soon now being a Windows killer (perhaps 8.5, or they may rename it to 9.0). They are claiming the next one comming out sometime in the first few months of next year will be just that, but I'm not holding my breath.

Likely within the next year, though. 8.1 is close, but there are still a few rough points that need to be worked out. The admin side, for example, is still very much Unix (all the way to needing to edit text files for some services). Mind you, I actually preferr that aspect of it (direct controll, nothing runs if I don't want it to), and as such I'm loving it, but I know the common computer user doesn't want that and that's why 8.1 isn't ready for "prime time" yet as an end-user system.
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