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Monday, 27.Nov.2006

16:56 - just a friendly reminder // topical

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I've now seen the "post addresses/gift requests here" post at least three or four times on my Flist, so I guess it's that time of the year again. A friendly reminder to those of you who may have forgotten (understandable) or never knew:

I don't "do" the "holidays". holiday gifts to me are generally thrown out unopened, or if it feels like clothes, dropped off at the local homeless shelter (again, unopened). Please leave me out of your gift-giving plans. I like you just fine, it's nothing personal, I do hope you have a wonderful holiday gift-giving celebration, just please don't include me.

My reasons are very personal, very deep-rooted, will not be discussed, and my mind will not be changed. receiving holiday gifts causes me much emotional strife I'd rather avoid. Perhaps some day, decades from now, I'll have worked through it, but for right now let's just leave me out of the fun, please?

yes, I understand this can be very difficult for some people to manage. Yes, I understand that this is not the norm (hence the friendly reminder). If you cannot handle the idea that giving me a holiday gift is viewed by me as a *BAD* thing, please let me know now and I will do what I can to avoid seeing you for the next few months, just to make it easier for you to resist the temptation.

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From:macklinr
Date:5:45 28.Nov.2006 (UTC)
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Damn. That means I'll have to see if I return what I got for you.

I got you the opportunity to buy me beer and hand me my ass in chess sometime in Decemeber. That's a real pain to return without a receipt.

Seriously, I would like to start those up again. I miss those. Good times. Interested? Sometime mid-month seems to work best for me.
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From:lograh
Date:18:13 28.Nov.2006 (UTC)
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early mid-month would have to be it, as I'm leaving round the 16th for a trip.
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From:macklinr
Date:18:17 28.Nov.2006 (UTC)
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How's Friday, the 8th?
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From:lograh
Date:18:22 28.Nov.2006 (UTC)
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I am open that day, it could work.
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From:dotarvi
Date:17:22 28.Nov.2006 (UTC)
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I don't "do" the holidays either. I don't find it traumatic, but I'd rather skip it. I don't give gifts, and I really piss people off by not reciprocating when I receive gifts. It's funny to me how even non-Christians get kind of pissed if you don't celebrate Christmas. Ridiculous consumer holiday.

Are you coming up? I promise not to give you presents. :)
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From:lograh
Date:18:22 28.Nov.2006 (UTC)
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Yup, I'm planning on heading up your way. Sorry, I thought I had told you this.

I will be off work from the 16th through the 1st. I'm going to try not getting my paycheque till the 2nd and see if I can just hold back on spending money so I can afford rent still, we'll see how that pans out. :)

And while I do enjoy time visiting with you, I'd also like to see some new places this time. I'm thinking perhaps a touch of the western Washington area as well as maybe some southern states like Arizona and New Mexico for a few days each. So while I have almost two and a half weeks off, I'll not be able to spend all of that time with you (that, and I wouldn't want to wear out the welcome, as it were). Would you rather I come up there the earlier week (16th through 23rdish) or the later part (24thish through the 2nd)? Or would some other delineation work better? My time is entirely unscheduled as yet and I'm open to anything. I have no obligations in Sacramento this year (due to skipping the payday)
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From:lograh
Date:18:23 28.Nov.2006 (UTC)
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damnit, no coffee yet makes me screw up places..

that was supposed to be *eastern* washington. Not much more western of where you are. :)
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From:dotarvi
Date:18:38 28.Nov.2006 (UTC)
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Well, there is the entire peninsula, which is rather spectacular. Most of it is a State Park or Forest or something, and is quite beautiful. I don't know how much is accessible in the Winter though.
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From:lograh
Date:18:39 28.Nov.2006 (UTC)
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fair point, that would certainly be nice to see.
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From:dotarvi
Date:18:36 28.Nov.2006 (UTC)
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Whatever you want is fine. I'm going to be visiting Sac until about the 15th and then driving back up, so if you wanted to caravan up, that would be great. Though I have to be back by the 18th to teach my final Aikido class, so I'd have to come somewhat directly. I don't mind making the trip on my own, so don't worry about me if you'd rather do Arizona and New Mexico first. I'm entirely free from whenever I get home until school starts on the 2nd. (Sound familiar?) And I'd love to do some exploring up here as well, if you want company for that. No need to stick around Seattle for your entire visit.
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From:lograh
Date:18:42 28.Nov.2006 (UTC)
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sounds like our timelines mesh up perfectly. I'm game for that. Besides, it'd certainly be helpful to have someone I'm following on the way up there instead of trying to make it alone (certainly doable, but I had to stop a few times to check the directions and map last year). :) I'm okay with sleeping in my car on the way up if you want to do it hardcore style. that's one night of hotel fees I'd save and I'll need every bit I can get.

So yeah, give me a call when you're in sac and we'll caravan on up to your place that weekend. Though I work the 15th, so I hope that's not a problem for you.
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From:dotarvi
Date:18:45 28.Nov.2006 (UTC)
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I usually sleep in my car on the way up, so I'm fine with that, and the company on the road would be nice. Huge stretches of Oregon seem to be without cell service, and that always makes me nervous when I'm driving alone. I'm fine with leaving Saturday. If we leave in the morning we could make it in one day and not even have to sleep in the car. Or if there are any side trips you want to make...? I do have GPS, so getting lost is not an issue. :)
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From:lograh
Date:18:52 28.Nov.2006 (UTC)
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given you'll be arriving back in town late on the 16th and that just leaves the 17th to get re-situated after the trip (which I know can take a day sometimes) before your teaching on the 18th, I'll save any northernly side-trips for the way back down.

A nice morning departure on Saturday would put us at your place at a reasonable time around 8 or 9 in the evening (I seem to recall it took just shy of 12 hours to get back home last time (yup, just checked my post that night)). Car sleeping is cheap, but house sleeping is equally cheap and much more pleasant. :)
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From:dotarvi
Date:18:57 28.Nov.2006 (UTC)
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Yeah, 12 to 14 hours. Depending on the weather. Okay, I'll call you when I get into town and we can work the rest out.
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From:dotarvi
Date:18:47 28.Nov.2006 (UTC)
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I'll call when I get into Sac (probably late next week) and we can work out any details. Or not. We can just wing it, too.

And regarding Eastern WA, I drove to Spokane earlier this year and the other side of the Cascade Mountains is really neat, huge glacial ravines and stuff like that. Spokane is about a five hour drive, depending on how long it takes to get over the pass, and I think Idaho is another hour from there.
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From:lograh
Date:18:53 28.Nov.2006 (UTC)
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sure, give me a call. I'll be around. though it looks like my friday night is taken, beyond that I've no plans.

Ooh, glacial ravines! sounds purdy!
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