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Monday, 02.Jan.2006

10:04 - that's not a bug, it's a feature! // tech

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damn fsking firefox.. I swear there's a memory leak in this program somewhere. And here, for all to see, I present my evidence:


that's 512MB of memory this damn web browser is eating up! None of the other programs I have running even come close. Heck, you can see the second place winner in that picture, it's only claiming 32MB... WTF?!

grrr...

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From:gethen
Date:18:55 02.Jan.2006 (UTC)

troubleshooting

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ok, lessee. could be an extension misbehaving (esp if you're running a XUL app like deepest sender), so you could start by grabbing a list of what you have installed (manually or by using the infolister extension or similar) and then doing a full clean install with a new profile (i'd go official first, then only graduate to a nightly if the problem isn't an extension). then add them back one at a time (this is where the infolister list is very useful) and profile as you go. Every time my firefox has misbehaved, it's been an extension, but i'm constantly, constantly installing the newest ones to see what they do now :)

there's some useful links on this page for nightlies, new profile instructions and the bug db, etc if you want to see if it's been reported yet or what:

http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/bugs
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From:lograh
Date:21:29 02.Jan.2006 (UTC)

Re: troubleshooting

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I'm not hardcore enough for running nightlies, so I stick to the mainstream builds.. extensions I have at the moment (listed under the extensions window that pops up when I go to install infolister) are:
del.icio.us
answers
Sage (not sure why I'm keeping it around, I don't use it)
StumbleUpon
FlashGot (again, not sure why I'm keeping it around)
AdBlock (don't use this one, either, could likely do without)
IE Tab
FlashBlock (a godsend! I *loathe* flash in webpages because it loads without my telling it to, and bogs down the system. this fixes that)
SessionSaver (I never understood why Firefox didn't do this natively, it's beautiful)
GoogleSafeBrowsing (not too sure if I want to keep it, I'm a safe browser to begin with -- mostly installed this as a testbed before recommending it to some users of mine).
and now, Infolister when I reboot. :)

I recall this happening a lot before I had plugins installed, though. I think it has something to do with the way I use Firefox. I never quit it unless some page misbehaves, I just keep minimizing and restoring it all the time.. I also almost never reboot windows. This is a laptop, so I just use standby/sleep mode all the damn time. I'll restart firefox about twice or three times per windows boot, and I'll only reboot windows every few weeks (close to once a month).

Though if this gets to be a problem I'll do the clean reinstall and extension profiling thing.. for now, I'm fine with it eating up all that memory (which is now up to 538MB, it climbs every time I refresh a page). It's an annoyance in that it *shouldn't* be doing this, but it doesn't have a major impact on the system performance so it's not in-my-face bothersome yet. :)
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From:gethen
Date:1:43 03.Jan.2006 (UTC)

i'll show you mine if...

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These are my favorites for web development: And even if i'd only installed those, i'd need these to manage my otherwise too-big context menu and toolbar (menux gives a nice customizable multi show/hide for toolbars) because after all, i'm not ALWAYS developing: This is my set of "how did i live before these" extensions, things to which i am so attached that when i use a browser without them, i actually get really frustrated: And finally, these are the ones that i like and make things a bit nicer, but that i work around not having with no real problem: tmp has a session saver built in, dta is by far the fastest way to grab a set of data, by FAR (no external dl manager needed either), uas helps my mac-using self use about 80% of ie-only websites (in other words, the ones that only THINK they are ie-only) and linkification silently makes links out of valid urls with no user intervention.
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From:macklinr
Date:20:38 02.Jan.2006 (UTC)
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It's not the only one in Firefox. There's an exploit that's been used that allows people to hijack Yahoo! accounts. Jerry was recently victimized by such an attack.

Firefox is better than IE *most* of the time, but it is definitely foolish to think that Firefox is a flawless, unexploitable browser.
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From:lograh
Date:21:19 02.Jan.2006 (UTC)
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and I never claim it is flawless. I give both browsers credit for the things they do well, and blame for where they fall short.
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From:macklinr
Date:22:00 02.Jan.2006 (UTC)
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Here's one time where I wish I could have edited my comment -- I realized that it looked like I implied that you did make such a claim. I meant that many do, because it's not MSIE, which is foolish and down that path lies utter failure.

Kind of a "security through snobbery" attitude, if you ask me. :)
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